Ramon Dekers (Muay Thai) vs. Francois Pennacchio (Savate)

[savate]

See the video: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uJkP2poMFdY

Savate wins Muay Thai under specific K1 like rules.
Both fighters were top fighters in each sport - Muay thai and Savate.
Happened in 1996 in Milano Italy. Ramon Dekkers is well known as Thai killer European white fighter.

[Sennin]

Nějak nechápu založení této diskuze. Odkaz na video jsi klidně mohl hodit do příslušného, již obsáhlého vlákna, kde by splnilo svůj účel.

Můj osobní názor je, že ne na každou "blbost" je potřeba zakládat nové a nové vlákna...Pak zde panuje chaos a celkově je diskuzní fórum nepřehledné.
Na druhou stranu nikomu neuzurpuji právo založit si téma, jaké chce, ale měl by se používat rozum (což zde mnohdy chybí).

P.S. - Ještě dodatek: Pokud zde jde o ČESKÝ server o bojových uměních/sportech a příbuzných oborech, v drtivé většině navštěvovaný ČESKÝMI (a samozřejmě našimi SLOVENSKÝMI bratry) lidmi, hodí se zde více čeština než angličtina - ne všichni tento jazyk ovládají... Pokud jsi tím chtěl ukázat, jak tento jazyk dokonale ovládáš, tak to zde nikoho asi nezajímá...

[Sennin]

4sennin - ten človek nevie po česky... už sem pár krát písal...

Aha

[savate]

English is international, and I think many Czech people are too

so dont worry I understand your language, and on many forums around the world they support english writing,.....but if HillyBilly moments become stronger........ then I cannot help


is karate and old asiatic styles still so popular in Czech

[graver]

on many forums around the world they support english writing

The good folks here support english writing, too. However, in some cases, they don't support english reading

[savate]

thank you for your support , please tell me if you know some people who train or would like to train savate in Czech republic.

[Ponocnej]

no ja budu radsi za vice anglictiny a mene slovenstiny protoze jak je neco slovensky tak to musim strasne dlouho louskat a s anglictinou tyto problemy nemam ... jinak savate se mi libi

[TF]

no ja budu radsi za vice anglictiny a mene slovenstiny protoze jak je neco slovensky tak to musim strasne dlouho louskat a s anglictinou tyto problemy nemam ... jinak savate se mi libi

tak s tímhle problémy nemám i když jsem z tý mladý generace co už přestává rozumět

naštěstí jsem z půlky slovák a jsem na to hrdej

[savate]

no - probably you didn't understand me.

slovenia =/ slovakia
czech =/ slovakia
slovenia =/ czech

but, together we have a lot similar things in all three languages
sooooooo........

[ghekon]

hehe, maybe it isnt good idea to present savate in english on czech server, if somebody wants to know something about savate, he has got google But if you want to help, say where we can see a savate trainging in czech republic...

[savate]

if you invite me I can introduce you everything for free.
I have background also from karate, kickboxing, boxing and ju-jitsu-

I can also help you to add discipline of savate - french boxing to your primary style (martial art) you offer in your club.
So I can help you with - knowldge how to build bridges beetween these two sports and connect them in logical course.

[ghekon]

Sorry, but i am student, not master, but if you want to make a workshop, i will come.

[savate]

which martial art do you train?

[ghekon]

Judo, Sambo and next month i am going to start train Combat Sambo

[savate]

I think that savate in combination with western art of sambo is great thing. I know many people from Great Britain and France who practice this combination of sports.

If you practice - kicking with shoes - in sambo, then savate can help you with a lot of strategy there. Like in chess - when you have many books about great duels of chess masters - you have also in savate a lot of strategy which comes written in the same way also in fighting.

It is similar to book writers. You read more and more good books and then you can write more and more good books. It is just experiance.

You taste a knowledge of other artists.

I like this comparison. Like old painters - they went to other painters to learn more and more. Sometimes - they finished some parts of big paintings for their painting masters.
And also later - they contributed with their style of painting on development of painting in the whole world.

I think that savate could be nice try. What is your opinion?

[ghekon]

Yes, I must agree with you. But maybe is better learn one martial art and then started to learn other. But in my eyes savate looks as a good fighting style and if I will have a chance to train savate, i will availe it.

[ghekon]

Yes, I must agree with you. But maybe is better learn one martial art and then started to learn other. But in my eyes savate looks as a good fighting style and if I will have a chance to train savate, i will availe it.

[kumori]

yoi wiz mier to je jidiš, ať si prohloubíme jazykové znalosti
a volně přeloženo-přestaňte blbnout...

[ghekon]

Nemuzu za to ze neumi cesky

[savate]

do you have also some club tournaments in Czech?

I can help you organise first savate tournament (light contact) for your club or some clubs and bring with me also some competitors and instructors.

About mixing martial arts :

Hmmm...In Croatia Marina Horvat is good competitor in kickboxing team and also in savate.

And in Serbia almost all savate clubs are also competing in Kickboxing federation of Serbia - and WAKO.

There is no clean border line where is some fighting sport positioned.

When I practised kickboxing I did savate as well all the time. And when I competed in karate I competed the same years also in kickboxing.

It just depends on you what you want.